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Perspective on Weber

Créé par: ricochetii
Équipe: 2017-18 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 1 févr. 2018
Publié: 1 févr. 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Légende
Gaucher
Équipe initiale
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Droitier
Position
Clause d'échange
Max. Bonis de perf.
Statut à l’échéance du contrat
Terme restant
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Exempté du ballottageMcDavid, Connor
12 500 000 $ (Bonis de performance250 000 $)
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Description
Likely a waste of time, but I wanted to encourage people to have a more open (and realistic) view of Weber in relation to his contract. It's a little narrow minded to simply write it off as bad contract, and while there are legitimate concerns with any expensive, long term contracts, there are also a number of other considerations.
A good GM considers everything, not just the potential downsides.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
UFAANSCAP HIT
Years 1 to 4, W
57 857 143 $
Year 5, Weber
17 857 143 $
Year 6+, Weber
17 857 143 $
Transactions
1.
MTL
    Top pairing defenseman.
    Worth his contract.
    Comparable to Chara.
    ANA
    1. Years 1 to 4, W
    Détails additionnels:
    Speed has never been a big part of his game. He's a beefy and heady player, with a booming point shot, and none of those qualities are going anywhere.
    2.
    MTL
      Still a top pairing defenseman or at least a top 4 defenseman and power play point man.
      Possibility of diminished returns in relation to cap hit.
      Actual salary is only $3M.
      ANA
      1. Year 5, Weber
      Détails additionnels:
      Any team that is not tight against the cap ceiling, would still be willing to offer assets for a 2nd pairing, PP specialist.
      Offers cash savings of about $2M versus actual salary for a typical 2nd pairing defenseman.
      Still could be a top pairing contributor. (See Markov, Chara, etc.)
      His main tools are still not diminished due to age.
      3.
      MTL
        At least an NHL regular. Likely still a top 4 and PP option. Possibly still a top pairing option.
        Valuable as a mentor. (Chara with Carlo and McAvoy, Markov with Subban, etc.)
        Unique contract that offers ~$7M in cash savings per year, to any team looking to reach the cap floor. (That floor will be significantly higher at this point as well.) Still has trade value for that reason alone.
        ANA
        1. Year 6+, Weber
        Détails additionnels:
        Many options to trade him at any time his cap hit becomes a liability.
        1. Over $20M in actual dollars saved, in the owner's pocket, over the last few years of the contract. That has value in trade.
        2. He retires. Free and clear of his cap hit.
        3. Nashville trades for him to delay his retirement and avoid cap recapture. The league will likely give Nashville an escape clause, but he will likely have to be on their roster and not another team's, before that relief is offered.
        4. Several standard options as a last resort. Including waivers, retention, paying to move him, LTIR, or simply having enough cap space that it doesn't impact your team (ie you are rebuilding), etc.
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        TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
        2675 000 000 $63 898 809 $0 $182 500 $11 101 191 $
        Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
        5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
        AG, AD
        UFA - 6
        3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
        C
        UFA - 1
        3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
        AD, AG
        UFA - 4
        4 050 000 $4 050 000 $
        AG
        UFA - 2
        4 900 000 $4 900 000 $
        AG, C, AD
        UFA - 3
        3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
        C, AD
        UFA - 5
        1 166 667 $1 166 667 $
        AG, AD
        UFA - 2
        912 500 $912 500 $
        C
        UFA - 1
        1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
        AD
        UFA - 1
        839 166 $839 166 $
        AG, AD
        UFA - 2
        650 000 $650 000 $
        C
        UFA - 2
        650 000 $650 000 $
        C, AG, AD
        UFA - 2
        775 000 $775 000 $
        AG, AD
        UFA - 1
        725 000 $725 000 $
        C, AG
        UFA - 1
        650 000 $650 000 $
        C, AD
        UFA - 1
        725 000 $725 000 $
        AG
        UFA - 1
        Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
        4 625 000 $4 625 000 $
        DG
        M-NTC
        UFA - 5
        7 857 143 $7 857 143 $
        DD
        UFA - 9
        700 000 $700 000 $
        G
        UFA - 1
        2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
        DG
        UFA - 3
        5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
        DD
        NMC
        UFA - 4
        6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
        G
        NMC
        UFA - 1
        1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
        DG/DD
        UFA - 2
        925 000 $925 000 $
        DG
        UFA - 1
        650 000 $650 000 $
        DD
        UFA - 1
        748 333 $748 333 $ (Bonis de performance182 500 $$182K)
        DG/DD
        UFA - 3

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        1 févr. 2018 à 22 h 45
        #1
        xd
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        Probably will be a Hab for the rest of his career and I don't mind.. I don't want draft picks for him.. We fucked up trading Subban, now just keep Weber as a Leader of the group and a mentor to future Habs defencemans.
        Kotkaniemi15 et ricochetii a aimé ceci.
        2 févr. 2018 à 5 h 21
        #2
        Billy739
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        Weber for those of you who didnt watch any of the coverage during the trade
        has a pre negotiated Recapture clause on his final 4 years stating if he does not play for
        any reason from retirement to we bought him out then 6/7.8m cap falls on NSH

        Meaning we could re-sign Subban UFA , Waive Weber and only take a 1.8m dollar cap hit
        2 févr. 2018 à 7 h 43
        #3
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        do the recapture penalties re Weber only apply if he retires before end of contract?
        2 févr. 2018 à 7 h 59
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        Go Habs Go
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        Quoting: wakeman
        do the recapture penalties re Weber only apply if he retires before end of contract?


        Yup. Nashville would be on the hook for a penalty of anywhere from $8M to $24M per season, depending on when he retires.
        2 févr. 2018 à 8 h 7
        #5
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        Quoting: ricochetii
        Yup. Nashville would be on the hook for a penalty of anywhere from $8M to $24M per season, depending on when he retires.


        thanks, it has to be a retirement though eh! Didn't think he could be put on waivers and recapture apply. As a Habs fan i expect us to keep both Price and Weber for coming years, and I don;t think Tavares would sign here so we need to find other options
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