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Jones

Équipe: 2024-25 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 19 mai 2024
Publié: 19 mai 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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12 500 000 $ (Bonis de performance250 000 $)
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Description
I purposely tried to make these no brainers for the other teams involved to avoid any foolish arguments and show what's possible for our own roster. Marner would be exactly what the Krakken need, and unlike the leafs they would still have cap to replace borgen and daccord immediately, taking advantage of their trade value to a cash strapped team like the leafs. The Chicago trade is a lot, but I want to see how inevitable the pushback really is. Either way, heading into this draft with picks 2 and 8, while adding a solid #4 in liljegren and what's soon to be a top 6 mainstay in robertson, not to mention the cap space opened up to add through free agency... yeah, probably don't pull the trigger as the leafs but it's a good starting point for conversation at least. In either case, we'd be clearly establishing a championship window, and I think this team would be more threatening than ever before.

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RFAANSCAP HIT
11 100 000 $
1900 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
44 500 000 $
35 000 000 $
45 500 000 $
33 250 000 $
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TOR
  1. Jones, Seth (1 250 000 $ retained)
CHI
  1. Liljegren, Timothy [Droits de RFA]
  2. Robertson, Nicholas [Droits de RFA]
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (SEA)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2287 700 000 $87 696 334 $0 $0 $3 666 $
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
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13 250 000 $13 250 000 $
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UFA - 4
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
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925 000 $925 000 $
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
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11 500 000 $11 500 000 $
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UFA - 8
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904 667 $904 667 $
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11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
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UFA - 1
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1 350 000 $1 350 000 $
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UFA - 2
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1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AG, C
RFA
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2 400 000 $2 400 000 $
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UFA - 3
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800 000 $800 000 $
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1 350 000 $1 350 000 $
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
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8 250 000 $8 250 000 $
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UFA - 6
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1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
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UFA - 1
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7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
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NMC
UFA - 6
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2 700 000 $2 700 000 $
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UFA - 1
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766 667 $766 667 $
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RFA - 1
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1 350 000 $1 350 000 $
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
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1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
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Équipe de réserve
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816 667 $816 667 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
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900 000 $900 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
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RFA
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875 000 $875 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
DG
RFA - 1
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843 333 $843 333 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
G
RFA - 1

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19 mai à 11 h 13
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If Chicago trades Jones they are not retaining salary
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19 mai à 11 h 16
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The push back is that it doesn't make sense for CHI to trade Jones away. IF he asked for a trade...ok fine, but he hasn't to anyone's best knowledge. The Hawks WITH Jones should go out and get 1 more physical Veteran Dman. Without him...they need two. That's why there's so much push back. It's far less to do with trade value and more that no one thinks about what the Hawks actually need. They just throw some slop onto Capfriendly and pretend like they're doing the Hawks favors.
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19 mai à 11 h 18
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Quoting: Matt8330
If Chicago trades Jones they are not retaining salary


Well clearly that's a sticking point, so are you telling me Chicago walks away from that offer? If he's overpaid by that amount anyway, they'll always be paying that amount more than they otherwise would have had the signed him for cheaper.

Thing is, that amount he's overpaid by will increase as time goes by, while the potential return decreases. People get way to caught up in this - if the return compensates you for the retention then there's little reason to believe it will become a backbreaker down the road. It's less than 2% of your cap, if you can't plan for that on a rebuilding team while a ton of high value contracts then you shouldn't be a GM.
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19 mai à 11 h 24
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Quoting: exo2769
The push back is that it doesn't make sense for CHI to trade Jones away. IF he asked for a trade...ok fine, but he hasn't to anyone's best knowledge. The Hawks WITH Jones should go out and get 1 more physical Veteran Dman. Without him...they need two. That's why there's so much push back. It's far less to do with trade value and more that no one thinks about what the Hawks actually need. They just throw some slop onto Capfriendly and pretend like they're doing the Hawks favors.


This offer gives you all the reason you need to trade him. Now you have an additional top 10 pick to grab a future top pair D, as well as the cap to add the two defensemen you're after on top of that. Plus robertson, plus liljegren...

Jones accepted a trade to Chicago because he wanted to compete for a cup in his prime. I have no doubts he'd be a cmgood soldier in the media, but no professional athlete in his position would be pleased by it.

This is where you're wrong, I'm thinking about exactly what would benefit the hawks with where they're at as a team, which should be all about maximizing your cap and assets to align with their cup window. That window is years away, and that is the point.
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19 mai à 11 h 32
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Quoting: Affectionate_Side_64
This offer gives you all the reason you need to trade him. Now you have an additional top 10 pick to grab a future top pair D, as well as the cap to add the two defensemen you're after on top of that. Plus robertson, plus liljegren...

Jones accepted a trade to Chicago because he wanted to compete for a cup in his prime. I have no doubts he'd be a cmgood soldier in the media, but no professional athlete in his position would be pleased by it.

This is where you're wrong, I'm thinking about exactly what would benefit the hawks with where they're at as a team, which should be all about maximizing your cap and assets to align with their cup window. That window is years away, and that is the point.


I simply disagree with you and your approach and still curious if you even know what the Hawks need. I read your words, but the plan is poorly thought out. The Hawks have Vlasic, KK, and one of Del Mastro/Kaiser/Allan/Phillips on the left. Aka two 2nd year guys and a guaranteed rookie. Do you really want to pair those left D with more rookies? We want to develop our prospects right. Vlasic and Jones had good chemistry. Keep that going! KK/Murphy didn't get the whole season together due to injury, but keep KK with a consistent defrnse 1st physical veteran. Same with the 3rd pair. Go OVER PAY for Demelo/Tanev/Pesce/or heck Chatfield. Don't tear the D apart.

Jones was very honest in his exit interview. He wants to win, but even more...he just wants guys to play the TEAM game. He's tired of teammates on 1 year deals playing for their next contract vs the team plan.

Just like the Hawks previous cup run...they went out and overpaid for Brian Campbell because guys like Keith/Seabrook needed time to. develop. The Hawks have been down this road and Jones is exactly what they need. I'd like to have one more to be honest...just not Caleb
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