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Équipe: 2024-25 Flames de Calgary
Date de création initiale: 30 avr. 2024
Publié: 30 avr. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Légende
Gaucher
Équipe initiale
Exempté du ballottage
Droitier
Position
Clause d'échange
Max. Bonis de perf.
Statut à l’échéance du contrat
Terme restant
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Exempté du ballottageMcDavid, Connor
12 500 000 $ (Bonis de performance250 000 $)
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
1975 000 $
1950 000 $
21 050 000 $
21 150 000 $
1850 000 $
64 850 000 $
Transactions
CGY
  1. Kämpf, David
  2. Liljegren, Timothy [Droits de RFA]
  3. Marner, Mitchell
  4. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (NSH)
TOR
  1. Andersson, Rasmus
  2. Mangiapane, Andrew (2 500 000 $ retained)
  3. Markström, Jacob
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (CGY)
  5. Choix de 7e ronde en 2026 (CGY)
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2024
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2025
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2387 500 000 $76 378 833 $0 $212 500 $11 121 167 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 2
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4 900 000 $4 900 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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975 000 $975 000 $
AG
RFA
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7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 5
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10 903 000 $10 903 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 1
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 7
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
AG, C
RFA - 1
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3 100 000 $3 100 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AD
RFA - 2
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2 400 000 $2 400 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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950 000 $950 000 $
AD, C
RFA
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1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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825 000 $825 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
DG/DD
NTC
UFA - 7
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1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
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2 200 000 $2 200 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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1 050 000 $1 050 000 $
DG
RFA
4 850 000 $4 850 000 $
DD
RFA
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1 150 000 $1 150 000 $
G
RFA
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850 000 $850 000 $
DG
RFA
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775 000 $775 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
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787 500 $787 500 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1

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30 avr. à 5 h 12
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I dont think 11mil expiring UFA, coming off his worst year and even worse showing in playoffs carries that value.

And same for Liljegren who enters his 7th pro season as still just a 3rd pairing guy, on a team so depserate for defenders that annually they go out at the trade deadline and acquire two defensive starters, and then is a healthy scratch in playoffs two years running? (and you've given him 4.8mil?)

Marner for Markstrom and Mangiapane (50%) retained is probably closer
30 avr. à 5 h 37
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Modifié 30 avr. à 5 h 54
Quoting: Hammerwise
I dont think 11mil expiring UFA, coming off his worst year and even worse showing in playoffs carries that value.

And same for Liljegren who enters his 7th pro season as still just a 3rd pairing guy, on a team so depserate for defenders that annually they go out at the trade deadline and acquire two defensive starters, and then is a healthy scratch in playoffs two years running? (and you've given him 4.8mil?)

Marner for Markstrom and Mangiapane (50%) retained is probably closer


If 69 games and 85 points is Marner's worst season, then I am scared to see when he is on fire, with the flames, pun intended.
Marner needs to play away from home, needs a mental reset, and a fresh start.

Liljegren, is a good player, but the Maple Leafs keep switching his D-pair around, like a merry-go-round, moving him up and down the lineup. How is this man suppose to settle in with so much instability? (And he does not fit as well into Toronto's d-scheme, compared to what management think they want, eg. very physical.) Over the last three seasons Liljegren has played 183 games, playing less due to being a healthy scratch. During those 183 games he has 64 points, a 0.35ppg average for a defensemen. Much better than Rasmus Sandin (an LD), who fetched a first, and afterwards signed for 5 years at 4.6m.
Which RD comes into the league and has played 7 pro seasons by the time he is 25? No one. Most defenseman start in the NHL after playing 2-3 years in the minors or overseas. Liljegren has 3 "full" (60 game) seasons under his belt. Give him a break, and blame the coaching staff for this mess. Expecting players to succeed with so little patience, is a hallmark for continuous first round exits.

If the Leafs lose later today, the first thing they need to do is fire Sheldon Keefe, (and break up the core four). I believe Marner is the odd man out.
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30 avr. à 6 h 2
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Quoting: habs_trade_churner_50
If 69 games and 85 points is Marner's worst season, then I am scared to see when he is on fire, with the flames, pun intended.
Marner needs to play away from home, needs a mental reset, and a fresh start.

Liljegren, is a good player, but the Maple Leafs keep switching his D-pair around, like a merry-go-round and moving him up and down the lineup. How is this man suppose to settle in with so much instability? (And he does not fit as well into Toronto's d-scheme, compared to the player's management think they want, eg. very physical.) Over the last three seasons Liljegren has played 183 games, playing less due to being a healthy scratch. During those 183 games he has 64 points, a 0.35ppg average for a defensemen. Much better than Rasmus Sandin (an LD), who fetched a first, and afterwards signed for 5 years at 4.6m.
Which RD comes into the league and has played 7 pro seasons by the time he is 25? No one. Most defenseman start in the NHL after playing 2-3 years in the minors or overseas. Liljegren has 3 "full" (60 game) seasons under his belt. Give him a break, and blame the coaching staff for this mess. Expecting players to succeed with so little patience, is a hallmark for continuous first round exits.

If the Leafs lose later today, the first thing they need to do is fire Sheldon Keefe, (and break up the core four). I believe Marner is the odd man out.


Maybe, but I dont think you're selling high on either player.

And Marner who's production wasn;t down, we know with the leafs regular season offensive production is over rated, its his overall game/importance. Marner's value is hurt by the fact that he is small, one dimensional, non physical, and seems mentally fragile/selfish/? (main reasons Toronto fans want rid of him), but also to the fact that hes probably a 13+mil re-sign as a player making winger, and similar to Gaudreau (who was a UFA) might not have his one asset (offensive production) on a lesser team that isnt a regular season offensive powerhouse.

As far as Liljegren, its partly Toronto's system, but he hasn;t shown the offensive upside or physical upside to be a top 4. Toronto over just the past 2 years has brought in a combo of defensive and offensive guys, some getting far more minutes (and some not a healthy scratch) in McCabe, Schenn, Gustaffsson, Klingberg, Benoit, Edmundsen, Lyubushkin. Liljegren will be going into his EIGHTH pro season in North America with less than 200 NHL games. If he cant be a top 4 in toronto, with their defensive turnover and need, theres not a ton of teams he could be. I just dont see a higher upside than we've seen and he'd have to be partnered with the right player. I just don;t see him getting what Sandin got (and even that looked like an end of the round 1st), maybe a late 2nd, because Sandin got that return based on less information. Liljegren's stock in the past 2 years is going lower, not higher.

I just dont see anyone giving equal or better value in trade for these two right now, but then you're never going to get a "marner" for a "marner" but you might get multiple pieces which are better for the team or make the team better.
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30 avr. à 7 h 16
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Quoting: Hammerwise
I dont think 11mil expiring UFA, coming off his worst year and even worse showing in playoffs carries that value.


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30 avr. à 7 h 46
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Genuinely a horrible horrible trade for the Flames
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