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To become a cup threat

Créé par: michaeldym
Équipe: 2023-24 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 15 mai 2023
Publié: 15 mai 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Exempté du ballottageMcDavid, Connor
12 500 000 $ (Bonis de performance250 000 $)
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Description
Oilers need this to happen, to get a lot closer to the Stanley Cup. They need better, experienced depth that can push them over the top. Perry and Parise, Schenn as well are all great adds to any team looking to win a cup. ROR would be so perfect for this team. He can produce, maybe not as well as he used to, but can be a key player defensively. He is a winner, and adding winners to a team will help. Gibson is huge, they need a guy who can win games by himself. He has the ability to do that regardless of his numbers in Anaheim in recent years. The hardest trade was the Nurse deal, I wanna hear feedback. I think he needs to be dealt, it just seems like the Oilers would have to overpay with youth and picks to get it done for essentially cap space.

I debated between Graves and Dumba, and I think both are good options for Edmonton, but Dumba seemed like the cheaper option and might take a 1 year or 2 year deal to re-solidify his stock in the league. The Foegele trade was hard also, I figured Seattle would be willing to add a guy like Broberg and have him develop and be a late bloomer. Seattle is up against the cap but they could flip him somewhere else with salary retention, or let the final year run out and let him walk.

In the Gibson, Campbell Swap --> They would have to waive their NMTC in order for it to work.

Perry and Parise join EDM on league-min deals.

I know the Nurse trade is wild, but let me know if that needs more, too much, etc.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
23 850 000 $
1825 000 $
2925 000 $
1865 000 $
1820 000 $
21 375 000 $
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23 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
EDM
  1. Gibson, John
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (ANA)
Détails additionnels:
Tell me if I am overpaying or not here. But I feel it holds fair value. Edmonton loves these albatross and anchor contracts which just seems inevitable. I do not think Campbell was a bad signing, I just do not think it worked out as for now. Edmonton could easily run it back next year and roll with Campbell. He will be expected to bounce back. However, I do not know if you can afford to wait. Skinner is not the greatest option, but he is not the worst. His AAV is fair and him backing up a starter is a great situation. Gibson in Anaheim has been dead for a while. The Ducks have been rebuilding and Gibson has been bad since for obvious reasons. Some state his play has declined but I truly believe that in the NHL, star goalies who get paid a TON, become lazy when their team's are average or bad. Once they get in to the playoffs though, they perform (Price, Bobrovsky for example). But Gibson was a very good goalie when the Ducks were good, and even at the start of the rebiuild. He is a good fit for EDM, hell be motivated and could be a darkhorse for the Vezina if he returns to the form we know he is capable of. Yamamoto is a solid, but very small player. He works hard, but hard to see him back with Edmonton's needs and cap issues. The 2 picks are high, and can even be conditioned to improve. Anaheim can eat some money for a bit, or even flip Yamamoto's rights and get assets for him. I think this would pay off both ways. Oilers need a guy who can be elite, and Gibson could very well be the guy Edmonton has been missing.
ANA
  1. Campbell, Jack
  2. Yamamoto, Kailer
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (EDM)
2.
EDM
  1. Edmundson, Joel
Détails additionnels:
Edmonton needs this trade. Ceci has not been bad on Edmonton, but his cap is significant for the Oilers in the next 2 years. I think there are better players than him at his position and at his cap, and Joel Edmundson comes to mind. There is injury concern, which is why the return is not as high as maybe it would be at the deadline, also Edmonton has no picks really. Eddy will be big for Edmonton, especially in the Playoffs. They needed another good Defenceman this year, Ekholm was a great add, but another I felt was needed. This could make them way harder to play against. The sweetener is the 2nd, which is a fair price even for Eddy, and the 5th is for that extra year the Ceci has. Good trade for both sides. Habs may be clogged on D but they can try to flip him in a hockey trade which is what they love to do.
MTL
  1. Ceci, Cody
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (ANA)
3.
EDM
  1. Brown, Joshua
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2025 (ARI)
Détails additionnels:
This is a cap dump. Look, Nurse is overpaid to a degree that the Oilers are just so handcuffed. It is a big problem, and they are most likely going to have to give up a 1st rounder with Nurse to get a deal done and even more, such as one of their best prospects in Bourgault. Nurse has a lot of term, and Arizona may honestly not be willing to take this deal, but a 1st in 2025 is unpredictable. The Oilers are at the peak of this window right now, so they have to win and do everything they can before Draisaitl needs a new deal. Who knows, an injury to one of McDavid or Draisaitl this year can put even more pressure on them in 2025, or even an injury in 2025 can give the Coyotes a great pick. So there is a lot of risk here for Edmonton. They are also moving Bourgault, who is a good prospect (former 1st rounder) and could get a great opportunity when Arizona and its youth is ready to start competing more and more. A 5th going back seems reasonable, and a player with some money on him, like Josh Brown. but the interesting piece is Josh Brown. Look, I have a hard time seeing anyone wanting Nurse, even Arizona. Yes, they are getting 2 first rounders, but he has a lot of term on this deal. The Oilers need money flexibility and I believe that trading futures with Nurse will help them spend money more appropriately. (LMK WHAT YOU ALL THINK even if he would never get traded lol).
ARI
  1. Bourgault, Xavier
  2. Nurse, Darnell
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (EDM)
4.
EDM
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (SEA)
Détails additionnels:
Cap dump, yes Seattle is up against the cap too, but they do have some guys expiring this year and next year just like Foegele. I think the sweetener here is Broberg, who is still young, not making a lot of money and can be utilizied. Not to mention, he could blossom in Seattle, and that would be a bad look for Edmonton. He could need a fresh start, new system, team, and this opportunity could benefit him. Edmonton gains over 3M in cap space which is exactly what they need right now. No greater time to go all in when Draisaitl is playing on a bargain deal, and before McDavid needs an extension.
Rachats de contrats
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2382 500 000 $78 839 167 $850 000 $650 000 $3 660 833 $

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UFA - 4
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance650 000 $$650K)
AG, C
RFA - 1
775 000 $775 000 $
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UFA - 1
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1 375 000 $1 375 000 $
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775 000 $775 000 $
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
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UFA - 3
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3 850 000 $3 850 000 $
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RFA - 2
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6 400 000 $6 400 000 $
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M-NTC
UFA - 4
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875 000 $875 000 $
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UFA - 1
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
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2 600 000 $2 600 000 $
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UFA - 3
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
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UFA - 3
775 000 $775 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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885 000 $885 000 $
AG, C, AD
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15 mai 2023 à 14 h 45
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Not enough for the Ducks to take Campbell let alone get Gibson as well

"I'm not considering moving John Gibson," Verbeek said flatly. "I've actually sat down and had a conversation with him about this. We have an excellent number one goaltender. The hardest thing in the NHL is finding a number one goaltender and I can speak from experience on this, because when we were in Tampa, we did not have a number one goaltender and we gave up numerous assets trying to chase one.

"Finally we were able to draft one with Andrei Vasilveskiy. When you have one, you don't give them up unless you've got another one that's coming behind. At this point, we're very young with our goaltenders and certainly we're not at that stage where anyone can take John Gibson's position at number one right now."

Direct quote from Pat Verbeek https://www.nhl.com/ducks/news/verbeek-reflects-on-ducks-struggles-previews-crucial-summer-in-anaheim/c-341996140

It would take a 1st+ for the Ducks to even entertain taking Campbell in exchange for FC's
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15 mai 2023 à 14 h 46
#2
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So you trade one unproven, unreliable goalie for another slightly less unproven, unreliable goalie? And then you trade for Edmunson, are you a Habs fan wishing that the Oilers suck
15 mai 2023 à 14 h 46
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Quoting: Salzy
Not enough for the Ducks to take Campbell let alone get Gibson as well

"I'm not considering moving John Gibson," Verbeek said flatly. "I've actually sat down and had a conversation with him about this. We have an excellent number one goaltender. The hardest thing in the NHL is finding a number one goaltender and I can speak from experience on this, because when we were in Tampa, we did not have a number one goaltender and we gave up numerous assets trying to chase one.

"Finally we were able to draft one with Andrei Vasilveskiy. When you have one, you don't give them up unless you've got another one that's coming behind. At this point, we're very young with our goaltenders and certainly we're not at that stage where anyone can take John Gibson's position at number one right now."

Direct quote from Pat Verbeek https://www.nhl.com/ducks/news/verbeek-reflects-on-ducks-struggles-previews-crucial-summer-in-anaheim/c-341996140

It would take a 1st+ for the Ducks to even entertain taking Campbell in exchange for FC's


Did not realize that, fair enough.
15 mai 2023 à 14 h 50
#4
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All Canadian teams are on John Gibson's no trade list, That has already been reported.

Matt Dumba isn't taking anything less than 5 x $5,000,000 if not slightly more.

Ryan O'Reilly probably gets 3 x $5,000,000.

Corey Perry likely remains in Tampa. And Zach Parise has stated numerous times that he will never ever play in Canada.
15 mai 2023 à 14 h 50
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So you trade one unproven, unreliable goalie for another slightly less unproven, unreliable goalie? And then you trade for Edmunson, are you a Habs fan wishing that the Oilers suck


I wouldn't say Gibson is unproven at all. Campbell is proven too, had a very bad year imo. Love my habs, do not think the Oilers are worse after this, but they need more grit and playoff players, much like your small and feeble Maple Leafs, the Oilers need an Edmundson. Winner, great track record, etc. Oilers would be so lucky to have him. The habs would be eating Ceci for 2 years and get a 2nd and 5th. Eddy also has 1 left. Fine to me
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