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STOP TRADING VATANEN.. this season ;)

Créé par: Jded
Équipe: 2018-19 Ducks d'Anaheim
Date de création initiale: 12 juill. 2017
Publié: 12 juill. 2017
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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12 500 000 $ (Bonis de performance250 000 $)
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Description
This is my response to everyone who keeps proposing that the Ducks trade Vatanen this offseason for a 3rd line center or top 6 LW..

First of all, I agree these are both positions where the Ducks could improve right now. However, whatever they gain in acquiring someone would be equal to (if not less than) what they lose on the back end with Bieksa in and Vatanen out. Moreover, they have 2 players (a LW and C coincidentally) who are 1 year away from being prepared for a big splash in the NHL. Any long-term deal for a player at those positions would logjam the position with higher cap players, and any short term trade would be a waste of Vats's value.

Instead, wait a season until the '18 draft, pony up Vats and a prospect for someone who can become a cornerstone player for the next gen. Make a short-term signing on Vatanen's right side, and keep enough cap open to sign Gibby and Silf the following year.

2020 will be the real test anyways - the year before Getz and Perry come off the books - with Jones, Steel, and Larsson up for new contracts. However this clears a lot of cap to make that possible to maneuver.
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23 200 000 $
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2377 000 000 $68 417 582 $0 $157 500 $8 582 418 $
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2 463 139 $2 463 139 $
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8 250 000 $8 250 000 $
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3 150 000 $3 150 000 $
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2 150 000 $2 150 000 $
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6 875 000 $6 875 000 $
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3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
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863 333 $863 333 $
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863 333 $863 333 $
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8 625 000 $8 625 000 $
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UFA - 3
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
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UFA - 1
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
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1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
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730 833 $730 833 $ (Bonis de performance157 500 $$158K)
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Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
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2 300 000 $2 300 000 $
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2 602 778 $2 602 778 $
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4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
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UFA - 2
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
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UFA - 1
894 166 $894 166 $
DG
UFA - 2
3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
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650 000 $650 000 $
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900 000 $900 000 $
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12 juill. 2017 à 15 h 42
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No need for Franson. Especially at the cap hit. Megna, Welinski, or even Mahura could fill the hole.
12 juill. 2017 à 15 h 43
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I'm all for brining up young kids to play as I think kase was a very very pleasant surprise this year. Who know we might have a jake guentzal hidden I there some where. However, obviously you don't feel this way but I for one would NOT want 4 positions be open full time to first year players. That is a recipe for being pushed around by other contender teams. The depth chart listed above would be lucky to be a wild card team. Need to have core established players and leave 1-2 spots open for ahl players making the jump. Larsson, kerdiles and **maybe jones can crack the line up in the next 2 seasons. (Kerdiles I think this year) steel, nattinen and kossila need 2-3 years to develop their game
12 juill. 2017 à 15 h 50
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No need for Franson. Especially at the cap hit. Megna, Welinski, or even Mahura could fill the hole.


I whole heartedly agree that Megna could step in. The issue is he (and Mahura) are lefties, and a the NHL is a tough transition on its own, let alone moving them to their offside while making the jump.
12 juill. 2017 à 16 h 1
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Quoting: Kylehamm59
I'm all for brining up young kids to play as I think kase was a very very pleasant surprise this year. Who know we might have a jake guentzal hidden I there some where. However, obviously you don't feel this way but I for one would NOT want 4 positions be open full time to first year players. That is a recipe for being pushed around by other contender teams. The depth chart listed above would be lucky to be a wild card team. Need to have core established players and leave 1-2 spots open for ahl players making the jump. Larsson, kerdiles and **maybe jones can crack the line up in the next 2 seasons. (Kerdiles I think this year) steel, nattinen and kossila need 2-3 years to develop their game


I see your perspective. However, I think you're not taking into account a few factors which would make those conditions untrue. First, there's a phenomenal chance that Megna or Larsson play significant NHL minutes on the left side this year, so they'd have a full year under their belt by '18-19. Same goes for Kerdiles.

The only actual newbies would be Jones, Steel, and Kossila (or nattinen, whoever is 4th C). However your concern is getting pushed around, and Jones would be far more likely to be the one doing the pushing. That leaves 2. One is Steel who dominated juniors, and will have a full year of pro under his belt in the AHL this year, and then will be safely positioned between ~420lbs of wingers. Kossila/Nattinen would be in a low pressure position as a 4th liner C learning the ins and outs.

The league is trending toward speed and skill, and that's exactly what this lineup brings. In the pacific the only teams I see that would be competing with this in 2 years is EDM, CGY, and maybe ARI. This team at worst would be 4th in the Pacific and a wild card, and at best taking the Pac title again.
12 juill. 2017 à 16 h 43
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No need for Franson. Especially at the cap hit. Megna, Welinski, or even Mahura could fill the hole.


I whole heartedly agree that Megna could step in. The issue is he (and Mahura) are lefties, and a the NHL is a tough transition on its own, let alone moving them to their offside while making the jump.


That's true, however I believe that Mahura has been playing the right side, he did in development camp at least.
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