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How much retention is needed for him to have value

Créé par: BeautifulIdiot
Équipe: 2022-23 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 16 avr. 2023
Publié: 16 avr. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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12 500 000 $ (Bonis de performance250 000 $)
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NMC
UFA - 5
Description
Its no secret that OEL's contract sucks, but how bad does it suck? and if he were bought out this summer how much would he resign for? personally, I would rather trade him and be stuck with some retention, because a 3.5M cap hit for 4 seasons is better than buying him out and the overall cap impact being greater, Suter in his last year with MIN had 19 points in 56 games and cost 7.5M against the cap, he was bought out. OEL did 22 points in 54 games. Suter resigned for 3.65M, he was also playing with a significantly better partner in spurgeon and Dumba. I think that at half retained OEL has neutral value, and a team would be willing to take him on, am I crazy?
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    2482 500 000 $76 412 917 $1 250 000 $1 782 500 $6 087 083 $
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    7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
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    16 avr. 2023 à 18 h 10
    #1
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    Just buy him out next year
    16 avr. 2023 à 18 h 12
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    Sutter was decent devensively, OEL isnt.
    16 avr. 2023 à 18 h 13
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    Quoting: Aaron_Dell_Pickle
    Sutter was decent devensively, OEL isnt.


    OEL has been defencively responcible in the past, just not when paired with Myers
    16 avr. 2023 à 18 h 14
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    Modifié 16 avr. 2023 à 18 h 31
    There is no amount you'd get to for a team to want OEL. You'd be better off just buying him out.

    Your comments on the top about how it would be better to have him retained at 3.5 for 4 years rather then buy him out is better but I totally disagree. Here is OEL in a buyout.

    First year he costs nothing 147k
    Second year 2.3 mil
    3rd and 4th year 4.8 mil
    5th - 8th year 2.1 mil

    In the next two years you save 7 million and 5 million while the team is tight against the cap.
    Yes years 3 and 4 suck but that's only 1.3 more then your proposal of retaining. Btw the wild almost won the west with 12 million in dead cap so you can win around buyouts.
    Here is where the rubber meets the road. Yes 2.1 cap hit for 4 years isn't ideal for for crying out loud its only 2.1 million. Only JT Miller and Hughes are on the books at this point. Surely 5 years from now when the cap is pushing 100 million the Canucks could work around a 2.1 million cap loss.
    16 avr. 2023 à 18 h 16
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    Modifié 16 avr. 2023 à 18 h 28
    Per the Athletic player cards, his market value is $4.4 mil, so retain him down to between 4 and 4.5 million and you should be able to find a taker. Its his NMC that is the real kicker.

    Edit: sorry, that was last years value, let me try to find this years. This year his contract has a surplus value of -7.8 million, meaning he contibuted as much as a league minimum player. Maybe on his reputation as a defenseman you might be able to move him by retaining 50% without adding picks, but I can't see who specifically would take him. Maybe Los Angeles would take him at 50% for something minor like one of their excess depth RHD guys.
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