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If Hornqvist can be dumped - read please

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Équipe: 2022-23 Panthers de la Floride
Date de création initiale: 24 nov. 2022
Publié: 24 nov. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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12 500 000 $ (Bonis de performance250 000 $)
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NMC
UFA - 5
Description
Did a Duclair trade assuming that Hornqvist can't be dumped, no for one if he can be dumped.

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3775862
Transactions
1.
FLA
  1. Meier, Timo
Détails additionnels:
The goal is to reduce the assets needed to dump Hornqvist + acquire Meier by having it in 1 trade. I would assume that it would cost about 1stx3 + 2nd + 3rd.

Grier needs to give Zito permission to discuss if he's willing to sign an extension right away. Following the trade Meier signs for 7.5mx8 (equal to ~9.57mx8 in SJ and ~8.19m in Bos)

Worth noting that his comparables are getting paid 7.8-8.5m on long-term deals. So worst case, it should cost FLR 8mx8.

$1,120,834 is the approx. minimum amount that FLR needs to lose to run a 21-man roster. However, SJ doesn't have the cap at this time and in fact need to clear 1.55m to make this trade work.
SJS
  1. Duclair, Anthony
  2. Hörnqvist, Patric
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (FLA)
Détails additionnels:
+a top (Denisenko, Samoskevich, Heponiemi, Sourdif, Benning, etc...)

https://www.nhl.com/news/florida-panthers-prospect-watch/c-335284156

The assumption is that Hornqvist cooperates.
2.
ARI
  1. Reinhart, Sam
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (FLA)
Détails additionnels:
+top prospect
Rachats de contrats
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2182 500 000 $78 220 834 $637 500 $2 700 000 $4 279 166 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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4 166 667 $4 166 667 $
AG
UFA - 3
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10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 8
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9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
AD
UFA - 8
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 2
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4 425 000 $4 425 000 $
C
UFA - 3
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C, AG
RFA - 2
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1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
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800 000 $800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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750 000 $750 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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450 000 $450 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
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7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 3
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10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 4
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2 666 667 $2 666 667 $
DG
UFA - 2
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance1 850 000 $$2M)
G
RFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1

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24 nov. 2022 à 11 h 10
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Reinhart does need to be traded to make this work for next season, so trading him now without there being retention on Meier might make the most sense so that they have the cap for this season. For next season, Gudas needs to be replaced by a 1.5m defender, and all other expiring contracts need to stay the same, if the cap only goes up 4m, with Knight being 4.5m if Meier is 7.5m.

Edit: They have 5,333,333 of dead cap off the books next year, so they could trade Reinhart for someone with term that takes some of that. Perhaps Chychrun but what would it cost on top with Reinhart doing poorly?
24 nov. 2022 à 11 h 53
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Going to have to add more than a prospect to the to get Meier. Floridas prospects aren't even that good
24 nov. 2022 à 12 h 10
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Going to have to add more than a prospect to the to get Meier. Floridas prospects aren't even that good


That's unfortunate. Essentially there's probably no deal to be done.

Perhaps Reinhart+prospect+ 2024 3rd for Meier could work but doubt it with Reinhart's performance. Hornqvist would still need to get dumped to ARZ (or another team with cap like Buffalo) who would flip him now to a contender at 50% if anyone is interested (he probably would want that if he's going to waive). The cost will be expensive though to do that, but if the overall cost makes sense then so be it, perhaps they can work in Duclair and Chychrun too.

If they use Buffalo as the intermediary, it would probably cost less than ARZ, ANA, or CHI since they all have multiple guys that they will want to flip at the deadline.
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24 nov. 2022 à 12 h 17
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Change the 3rd to a 1st and still don’t think that gets you Meier.

Zona wants two 1sts and a high end prospect for Chychrun. That is of zero interest to them
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24 nov. 2022 à 12 h 27
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Change the 3rd to a 1st and still don’t think that gets you Meier.

Zona wants two 1sts and a high end prospect for Chychrun. That is of zero interest to them


Yeah, I'm not sure what ARZ wants some places say it's a high end prospect + a 1st or two 1st + some while others say they want 3 1sts in value (top prospect+two 2nds)

As for the Meier trade I figured that Florida might have some very good prospects but guess not. My assumption was that the cost of Meier + dumping Hornqvist would be around a 1stx3 + 2nd + 3rd, but the idea was to get both done at a cheaper cost (replace the 1st for Hornqvits+2nd with Duclair). The assumption is that they had a top prospect that would be equivalent of 2 late 1sts.
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