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Some Big Trades and Some Math

Créé par: UpsideDownQue
Équipe: 2022-23 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 28 oct. 2022
Publié: 28 oct. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Légende
Gaucher
Équipe initiale
Exempté du ballottage
Droitier
Position
Clause d'échange
Max. Bonis de perf.
Statut à l’échéance du contrat
Terme restant
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Exempté du ballottageMcDavid, Connor
12 500 000 $ (Bonis de performance250 000 $)
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Description
First off I'm not 100% certain on LTIR and how that affects a teams ability to accrue cap space but I read the Capfriendly FAQs and this is my understanding of how it works

After the Domi trade EDM will run a 21 man roster with a cap hit of $81,236,500 and have an ACSL of $82,499,833, meaning they will be accruing that difference until the deadline. Im going to approximate TDL cap space by breaking the season into 3 parts: before Domi trade, After Domi trade but before TDL, and after TDL

Before Domi Trade (A): For the first 18 days of the season EDM has very little cap space, im going to approximate this as $0 accrued (they actually should be accruing a little but so im underestimating here)

After Domi trade but Before TDL (B): For the next 125 days in the season EDM trades for Domi 50% retained and also moves out Foegele. This puts them at a cap hit of $81,236,500 and have an ACSL of $82,499,833. For an approximation im going to say they accrue cap by being 1.25M under their ACSL for this period (again im underestimating how much they are accruing)

After TDL (C): For the final 42 days EDM will be able to spend the money they accrued from the previous 125 days and use it to acquire Jakob Chychrun. See below for calculation

Post-TDL cap hit calculation:
A = Pre Domi Trade Cap Hit (excluding LTIR) = 82.5M - 0 = 82.5M
B = Post Domi Trade Cap Hit (excluding LTIR) = 82.5M - 1.25M = 81.25M
C = Post TDL Cap Hit (excluding LTIR) = ?

A*18/185+B*125/185+C*42/185=82.5M
C = (82.5M-A*18/185-B*125/185)*185/42 = (82.5M-82.5M*18/185-81.25M*125/185)*185/42 = 86.2M

So they need to make sure they dont exceed an average of 86.2M cap hit for the last 42 days of the season (excluding LTIR). With the Chychrun trade it puts them at $85,836,500 so they should be fine and actually could have some space left over for performance bonuses to limit carryover to next season
Transactions
1.
EDM
  1. Domi, Max (1 500 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Trade happens as soon as possible to allow EDM to accrue cap space for the TDL
CHI
  1. Foegele, Warren
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
Détails additionnels:
2nd round pick upgrades to a 1st if EDM makes the Cup Finals and Domi plays in at least 50% of the playoff games
2.
EDM
  1. Chychrun, Jakob
Détails additionnels:
Trade happens at the TDL once EDM has accrued enough cap space
ARI
  1. Bourgault, Xavier
  2. Tullio, Tyler
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Enfoui
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2282 500 000 $85 836 500 $896 000 $1 350 000 $-3 336 500 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 7
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12 500 000 $12 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 4
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
NMC
UFA - 6
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5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 4
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8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
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3 100 000 $3 100 000 $
AD
RFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
AG, C
RFA - 2
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
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850 000 $850 000 $
AG, C, AD
UFA - 1
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798 000 $798 000 $
C
RFA - 1
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1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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9 250 000 $9 250 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 8
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
RFA - 1
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
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750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 4
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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762 500 $762 500 $
DG
RFA - 2
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4 167 000 $4 167 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
750 000 $750 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
2 200 000 $2 200 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
750 000 $750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1

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28 oct. 2022 à 17 h 11
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Edmonton was using ltir entering the season when teams do that the cap becomes fixed at that for the year so Edmonton will not be gaining any extra wiggle room by deadline. This is why teams generally try to put injuried players on the opening season roster before placing back on ltir. Holland obviously couldn't maneuver around both klef and Smith. Ltir can get a bit confusing that's just my limited knowledge. If I'm mistaken please let me know.
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28 oct. 2022 à 17 h 15
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Quoting: Timmah007
Edmonton was using ltir entering the season when teams do that the cap becomes fixed at that for the year so Edmonton will not be gaining any extra wiggle room by deadline. This is why teams generally try to put injuried players on the opening season roster before placing back on ltir. Holland obviously couldn't maneuver around both klef and Smith. Ltir can get a bit confusing that's just my limited knowledge. If I'm mistaken please let me know.


That sounds right to me. For sure Edmonton won't be accruing any cap space during the season.
28 oct. 2022 à 17 h 18
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You did alot of math and it was fun to read but unfortunately it doesn't work for Edmonton. Pretty sure you can't accrue cap space when using LTIR.
28 oct. 2022 à 17 h 34
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Modifié 28 oct. 2022 à 17 h 48
Quoting: Timmah007
Edmonton was using ltir entering the season when teams do that the cap becomes fixed at that for the year so Edmonton will not be gaining any extra wiggle room by deadline. This is why teams generally try to put injuried players on the opening season roster before placing back on ltir. Holland obviously couldn't maneuver around both klef and Smith. Ltir can get a bit confusing that's just my limited knowledge. If I'm mistaken please let me know.


Quoting: CD282
That sounds right to me. For sure Edmonton won't be accruing any cap space during the season.


Quoting: Lancebmx
You did alot of math and it was fun to read but unfortunately it doesn't work for Edmonton. Pretty sure you can't accrue cap space when using LTIR.


I think the point of the ACSL is to be able to accrue cap space while using LTIR

from Capfriendly's LTIR FAQ:
"When a team goes into LTIR, their effective salary cap, or upper limit, is changed. This adjusted upper limit is calculated as a function of the teams cap space and the player’s cap hit. This value is the “accruable cap space limit” (ACSL), and is the first value calculated. Second are the salary and performance bonus relief pools that are later explained below.

The accruable cap space limit is the teams new upper limit excluding their LTIR relief pools. If the team operates below the ACSL, they begin to accrue cap space."

EDIT: I'm seeing all over twitter than you can't accrue cap space while in LTIR but the FAQ page seems to contradict that, unless I'm misinterpreting something
28 oct. 2022 à 18 h 13
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CHI will definitely eat Foegele's contract and move Domi to a contender, but to do both in a single deal it's gonna take more than a conditional 2nd round pick - especially if you're expecting CHI to eat some salary on Domi.

A first-round pick or equivalent prospect would be the starting point. But I don't hate the idea!
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