SalarySwishSalarySwish

Creating an asset out of nothing

Créé par: Islesforthecup
Équipe: 2022-23 Islanders de New York
Date de création initiale: 22 avr. 2022
Publié: 23 avr. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Légende
Gaucher
Équipe initiale
Exempté du ballottage
Droitier
Position
Clause d'échange
Max. Bonis de perf.
Statut à l’échéance du contrat
Terme restant
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
Exempté du ballottageMcDavid, Connor
12 500 000 $ (Bonis de performance250 000 $)
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Description
Ive had this idea ever since the trade was reversed and yesterday i saw a similar idea but not really so i thought lets post it.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
3900 000 $
3900 000 $
86 500 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
2900 000 $
42 750 000 $
Transactions
1.
NYI
  1. Dadonov, Evgeni
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (BUF)
VGK
2.
NYI
    Retain 50% (2.5m) on dadonov
    ARI
    1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (BUF)
    3.
    NYI
    1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (WPG)
    Détails additionnels:
    Any team
    WSH
    1. Dadonov, Evgeni
    Détails additionnels:
    50% retained (2.5m)
    Rachats de contrats
    Enfoui
    Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
    2022
    Logo de NYI
    Logo de COL
    Logo de WPG
    Logo de NYI
    Logo de NYI
    Logo de NYI
    2023
    Logo de NYI
    Logo de NYI
    Logo de NYI
    Logo de NYI
    Logo de NYI
    Logo de NYI
    2024
    Logo de NYI
    Logo de NYI
    Logo de NYI
    Logo de NYI
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    Logo de NYI
    Logo de NYI
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2382 500 000 $82 439 963 $245 796 $1 287 500 $60 037 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    Logo de Islanders de New York
    750 000 $750 000 $ (Bonis de performance750 000 $$750K)
    AG
    UFA - 1
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    7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Islanders de New York
    894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance537 500 $$538K)
    AD
    RFA - 1
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    7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
    AG
    NTC
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Islanders de New York
    6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
    C, AG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
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    4 150 000 $4 150 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Islanders de New York
    5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
    C
    M-NTC
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Islanders de New York
    5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
    AD, AG
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Islanders de New York
    5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
    AD, AG, C
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Islanders de New York
    2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
    C
    UFA - 5
    Logo de Islanders de New York
    1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Islanders de New York
    1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 2
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    Logo de Islanders de New York
    5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
    DG
    NTC
    UFA - 7
    Logo de Islanders de New York
    6 150 000 $6 150 000 $
    DD
    NTC
    UFA - 8
    Logo de Islanders de New York
    4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
    G
    UFA - 2
    2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Islanders de New York
    6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
    DD
    RFA - 3
    Logo de Islanders de New York
    5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
    G
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Islanders de New York
    900 000 $900 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 2
    Logo de Islanders de New York
    1 450 000 $1 450 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    Logo de Islanders de New York
    900 000 $900 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Islanders de New York
    900 000 $900 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Islanders de New York
    1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
    AG
    UFA - 4

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    23 avr. 2022 à 14 h 58
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    Lambchopz17
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    I’m so lost here. Arizona is retaining the money, gets paid by Vegas to do so, and the Islanders get paid a 2nd for…. Nothing? I don’t see how that works at all
    bagelbob, drambui et Islesforthecup a aimé ceci.
    24 avr. 2022 à 3 h 25
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    Quoting: Lambchopz
    I’m so lost here. Arizona is retaining the money, gets paid by Vegas to do so, and the Islanders get paid a 2nd for…. Nothing? I don’t see how that works at all


    So this is how it would go. Vegas is looking to dump dadonov to create cap. Simple cap dump here, isles take dadonov and in exchange also receive a 3rd round pick. Now the isles dont necessarily want dadonov but they have the cap to keep him if need be. Free agency comes and goes and either (in this case WSH) missed out on their guy or they were looking for a middle 6 scoring winger at a cheap cap hit. So the isles offer dadonov 50% retained in exchange for an asset (i think a 2nd is about the right price). But NYI wants their cap space so they pay arizona a 3rd round pick to retain 2.5m for 1 year.
    Now why couldnt vegas go directly to ARI technically they couldve. In this case the caps werent yet looking for dadonov as they wanted to explore FA first. Maybe ARI didnt want the full cap hit, or maybe they were trying to squeeze vegas for extra value. There will probably be a few teams that would be willing to take a dadonov cap dump. In my acgm i have the isles being the team that gets the cap dump. When you look at everything as a total the isles basically get a free pick (hence the name of the acgm) but if you go through it piece by pice is there any trade that isnt pretty fair value? If the answer is no then by default the process makes sense.
    I could go through another whole post as to why its possible to do this here when basically everywhere else it isnt if you want.
    24 avr. 2022 à 9 h 16
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    Lambchopz17
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    Quoting: Islesforthecup
    So this is how it would go. Vegas is looking to dump dadonov to create cap. Simple cap dump here, isles take dadonov and in exchange also receive a 3rd round pick. Now the isles dont necessarily want dadonov but they have the cap to keep him if need be. Free agency comes and goes and either (in this case WSH) missed out on their guy or they were looking for a middle 6 scoring winger at a cheap cap hit. So the isles offer dadonov 50% retained in exchange for an asset (i think a 2nd is about the right price). But NYI wants their cap space so they pay arizona a 3rd round pick to retain 2.5m for 1 year.
    Now why couldnt vegas go directly to ARI technically they couldve. In this case the caps werent yet looking for dadonov as they wanted to explore FA first. Maybe ARI didnt want the full cap hit, or maybe they were trying to squeeze vegas for extra value. There will probably be a few teams that would be willing to take a dadonov cap dump. In my acgm i have the isles being the team that gets the cap dump. When you look at everything as a total the isles basically get a free pick (hence the name of the acgm) but if you go through it piece by pice is there any trade that isnt pretty fair value? If the answer is no then by default the process makes sense.
    I could go through another whole post as to why its possible to do this here when basically everywhere else it isnt if you want.


    I mean if a team would do that, I don’t see why not lol. 2.5 mil retained sadly does cost the 2nd rounder however instead of a 3rd, tho ig if it’s an earlier 3rd maybe. The value makes sense, it’s just so weird to possibly think of it happening yk
    24 avr. 2022 à 17 h 24
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    Quoting: Lambchopz
    I mean if a team would do that, I don’t see why not lol. 2.5 mil retained sadly does cost the 2nd rounder however instead of a 3rd, tho ig if it’s an earlier 3rd maybe. The value makes sense, it’s just so weird to possibly think of it happening yk


    How does 2.5 cost a 2nd when ~1.5 costs a 4th. And 5.5 costs a 2nd?
    Yeah it is really weird bc this is a unique case. Dadonov has positive value (especially retained) but vegas will have to pay to move him. In a usual case with a cap strapped team they wont get good value, but if a player has positive value they still have positive value even if its less. Here dadonov becomes a negative asset while on vegas. Thats why its possible to pull it over here.
    24 avr. 2022 à 19 h 37
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    Quoting: Islesforthecup
    How does 2.5 cost a 2nd when ~1.5 costs a 4th. And 5.5 costs a 2nd?
    Yeah it is really weird bc this is a unique case. Dadonov has positive value (especially retained) but vegas will have to pay to move him. In a usual case with a cap strapped team they wont get good value, but if a player has positive value they still have positive value even if its less. Here dadonov becomes a negative asset while on vegas. Thats why its possible to pull it over here.


    It depends on how you view it. This 2.5 mil is also over the course of an entire season, whereas the 1.2.5-1.5 mil trades are a 4th for the money saved at only the deadline and on
    Voir tout