A redo of expansion cause why not- vegas edition

Créé par: evelutions2
Date de création initiale: 17 févr. 2022
Publié: 17 févr. 2022
Équipe: 2021-22 Kraken de Seattle
Légende
Gaucher
Équipe initiale
Droitier
Position
Clause de non-échange/non-mouvement
Statut à l’échéance du contrat
Terme restant
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
McDavid, Connor
12 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Explications
This is a very hypothetical situation. This only happens if Francis wants to compete for a cup immediately, like Vegas, and not build into a powerhouse team, which is what Francis has decided to do. This situation would obviously be ignoring cap rules, as players that were targeted as free agents could end up being signed to different contracts than what they currently have.

Assuming Seattle chose to go the win now route from the start and this was the roster on opening night, how far into the playoffs would this team go, if they even make the playoffs?
Transactions
1.
SEA
  1. Getzlaf, Ryan
Détails additionnels:
There were a lot of higher end defensemen available, but not that many higher end Centers available. You would have to resign Getzlaf, but he would bring a lot of intangibles to Seattle.
ANA
  1. Fleury, Haydn
2.
SEA
    Pitlick was the best available choice. Ultimately flipped to Calgary.
    ARI
      3.
      SEA
        Lauzon was the best available pick.
        BOS
          4.
          SEA
            Borgen is likely the best available selection. Could have also selected Skinner (waived NMC) or Miller.
            BUF
              5.
              SEA
              1. Kylington, Oliver
              Détails additionnels:
              At the time Giordano was the best pick. The best pick for the future would have been Kylington.
              CGY
              1. Giordano, Mark
              6.
              SEA
              1. Niederreiter, Nino
              Détails additionnels:
              The best pick would have been Niederreiter.
              CAR
              1. Geekie, Morgan
              7.
              SEA
              1. De Haan, Calvin
              Détails additionnels:
              The best selection would have been de Haan.
              CHI
                Quenneville
                8.
                SEA
                  The best pick would have been Landeskog. The smartest pick would be Donskoi/Compher. Probably should have gone Compher in my opinion.
                  COL
                    9.
                    SEA
                    1. Domi, Max
                    Détails additionnels:
                    Best pick would have been Domi. Could have helped the Kraken down the middle.
                    CBJ
                      Bayreuther
                      10.
                      SEA
                        Oleksiak was the best available selection.
                        DAL
                          11.
                          SEA
                          1. Namestnikov, Vladislav
                          Détails additionnels:
                          Namestnikov would have been the best available selection. Stecher would also be a solid selection.
                          DET
                            Cholowski has been bouncing around via waivers.
                            12.
                            SEA
                              Larsson was the best available selection.
                              EDM
                                13.
                                SEA
                                1. Lomberg, Ryan
                                Détails additionnels:
                                Vatrano/Lomberg/Gudas/Dreidger were the best available selections. Dreidger could be grabbed in UFA. Select Lomberg instead.
                                FLA
                                  14.
                                  SEA
                                  1. Lizotte, Blake
                                  Détails additionnels:
                                  Athanasiou/Lizotte/Quick were the best available selections.
                                  LAK
                                    MacDermid was flipped to Colorado.
                                    15.
                                    SEA
                                    1. Kähkönen, Kaapo
                                    Détails additionnels:
                                    Kahkonen was the best available selection.
                                    MIN
                                    1. Soucy, Carson
                                    16.
                                    SEA
                                      The best available selection at the time was Price. The smartest selection might have been Fleury.
                                      MTL
                                        17.
                                        SEA
                                        1. Johansen, Ryan
                                        Détails additionnels:
                                        The best available selections would have been Duchene/Johansen. The smartest selection would have been Jarnkrok/Grimaldi/Sissons.
                                        NSH
                                        1. Järnkrok, Calle
                                        18.
                                        SEA
                                        1. Bastian, Nathan
                                        Détails additionnels:
                                        Best available selection was Bastian. Should have kept him.
                                        NJD
                                          19.
                                          SEA
                                            Eberle was the best available selection.
                                            NYI
                                              20.
                                              SEA
                                              1. Goodrow, Barclay
                                              Détails additionnels:
                                              Best available selection would have been Goodrow/Blackwell. Goodrow would be the better of the 2.
                                              NYR
                                              1. Blackwell, Colin
                                              21.
                                              SEA
                                                Daccord was the best available selection.
                                                OTT
                                                  22.
                                                  SEA
                                                  1. van Riemsdyk, James
                                                  Détails additionnels:
                                                  van Reimsdyk was the best available selection.
                                                  PHI
                                                    Twarynski is somewhere.
                                                    23.
                                                    SEA
                                                      Tanev was the best available selection.
                                                      PIT
                                                        24.
                                                        SEA
                                                          Gambrell/Nieto/True/Donato were the best available selections.
                                                          SJS
                                                            25.
                                                            SEA
                                                            1. Tarasenko, Vladimir
                                                            Détails additionnels:
                                                            The best available selection at the time was Tarasenko. The smartest pick at the time was Dunn. Seattle takes a risk on Tarasenko instead.
                                                            STL
                                                            1. Dunn, Vince
                                                            26.
                                                            SEA
                                                              Best available was Palat/Gourde/Killorn. Right choice on Gourde.
                                                              TBL
                                                                27.
                                                                SEA
                                                                  McCann/Hyman/Kerfoot were the best available selections. Seattle sticks with McCann.
                                                                  TOR
                                                                    28.
                                                                    SEA
                                                                      Lind best available selection.
                                                                      VAN
                                                                        29.
                                                                        SEA
                                                                        1. Dillon, Brenden
                                                                        Détails additionnels:
                                                                        Washington Expansion Selection: Dillon/Vanicek best available selections. Seattle takes Dillon instead. Doesn't get traded to Winnipeg.
                                                                        WPG
                                                                          30.
                                                                          SEA
                                                                            Appleton best available selection at the time.
                                                                            WPG
                                                                              31.
                                                                              SEA
                                                                                Traded anywhere prospects and picks
                                                                                ANA
                                                                                1. Domi, Max
                                                                                2. Donskoi, Joonas
                                                                                3. Borgen, William
                                                                                4. Namestnikov, Vladislav
                                                                                5. Donato, Ryan
                                                                                6. Lomberg, Ryan
                                                                                7. Czarnik, Austin
                                                                                8. Sheahan, Riley
                                                                                32.
                                                                                SEA
                                                                                  Traded anywhere for prospects and picks
                                                                                  ANA
                                                                                  1. Wennberg, Alexander
                                                                                  Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
                                                                                  • Mark Giordano: 3 375 000 $ (50%)
                                                                                  • Calle Järnkrok: 1 000 000 $ (50%)
                                                                                  • Marcus Johansson: 750 000 $ (50%)
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                                                                                  2023
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                                                                                  TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
                                                                                  2581 500 000 $94 898 333 $0 $1 500 000 $-13 398 333 $
                                                                                  Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
                                                                                  Logo de SEA
                                                                                  Schwartz, Jaden
                                                                                  5 500 000 $
                                                                                  AG
                                                                                  NMC
                                                                                  UFA - 5
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                                                                                  Johansen, Ryan
                                                                                  8 000 000 $
                                                                                  C, AD
                                                                                  UFA - 4
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                                                                                  Tarasenko, Vladimir
                                                                                  7 500 000 $
                                                                                  AD
                                                                                  NTC
                                                                                  UFA - 2
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                                                                                  McCann, Jared
                                                                                  2 940 000 $
                                                                                  C, AG
                                                                                  UFA - 1
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                                                                                  Getzlaf, Ryan
                                                                                  3 000 000 $
                                                                                  C
                                                                                  NMC
                                                                                  UFA - 1
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                                                                                  Eberle, Jordan
                                                                                  5 500 000 $
                                                                                  AD
                                                                                  NTC
                                                                                  UFA - 3
                                                                                  Logo de NYR
                                                                                  Goodrow, Barclay
                                                                                  3 641 667 $
                                                                                  AG, C, AD
                                                                                  NTC
                                                                                  UFA - 6
                                                                                  Logo de SEA
                                                                                  Gourde, Yanni
                                                                                  5 166 666 $
                                                                                  C, AG, AD
                                                                                  NTC
                                                                                  UFA - 4
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                                                                                  Niederreiter, Nino
                                                                                  5 250 000 $
                                                                                  AG, AD
                                                                                  UFA - 1
                                                                                  Logo de PHI
                                                                                  van Riemsdyk, James
                                                                                  7 000 000 $
                                                                                  AG, AD
                                                                                  UFA - 2
                                                                                  Logo de SEA
                                                                                  Johansson, Marcus
                                                                                  750 000 $
                                                                                  C, AG, AD
                                                                                  UFA - 1
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                                                                                  Tanev, Brandon
                                                                                  3 500 000 $
                                                                                  AD, AG
                                                                                  NTC
                                                                                  UFA - 4
                                                                                  Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
                                                                                  Logo de CGY
                                                                                  Kylington, Oliver
                                                                                  750 000 $
                                                                                  DG/DD
                                                                                  RFA - 1
                                                                                  Logo de SEA
                                                                                  Larsson, Adam
                                                                                  4 000 000 $
                                                                                  DD
                                                                                  NTC
                                                                                  UFA - 4
                                                                                  Logo de SEA
                                                                                  Grubauer, Philipp
                                                                                  5 900 000 $
                                                                                  G
                                                                                  NTC
                                                                                  UFA - 6
                                                                                  Logo de SEA
                                                                                  Oleksiak, Jamie
                                                                                  4 600 000 $
                                                                                  DG/DD
                                                                                  NTC
                                                                                  UFA - 5
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                                                                                  De Haan, Calvin
                                                                                  4 550 000 $
                                                                                  DG/DD
                                                                                  UFA - 1
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                                                                                  Kähkönen, Kaapo
                                                                                  725 000 $
                                                                                  G
                                                                                  RFA - 1
                                                                                  Logo de WPG
                                                                                  Dillon, Brenden
                                                                                  3 900 000 $
                                                                                  DG
                                                                                  UFA - 3
                                                                                  Logo de SEA
                                                                                  Lauzon, Jérémy
                                                                                  850 000 $
                                                                                  DG/DD
                                                                                  UFA - 1
                                                                                  Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
                                                                                  Logo de SEA
                                                                                  Appleton, Mason
                                                                                  900 000 $
                                                                                  AD
                                                                                  RFA - 1
                                                                                  Logo de LAK
                                                                                  Lizotte, Blake
                                                                                  800 000 $
                                                                                  C
                                                                                  RFA - 1
                                                                                  Logo de SEA
                                                                                  Driedger, Chris
                                                                                  3 500 000 $
                                                                                  G
                                                                                  NTC
                                                                                  UFA - 3
                                                                                  Logo de NJD
                                                                                  Bastian, Nathan
                                                                                  825 000 $
                                                                                  AD, C
                                                                                  RFA - 2
                                                                                  Logo de SEA
                                                                                  Kuhlman, Karson
                                                                                  725 000 $
                                                                                  AD, C
                                                                                  RFA - 1

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                                                                                  17 févr. à 22 h 36
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                                                                                  Don’t think that’s a playoff team. Over the cap. And Future not to bright either.
                                                                                  17 févr. à 22 h 43
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                                                                                  bang bang
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                                                                                  Goodrow wasn't even on the rangers. And skinner and his 9m contract ?
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                                                                                  I disagree about Neiderreiter and Van Riemsdyk, and without those two contracts you are no longer over the cap. Seattle made a lot of choices with an eye on the future instead of today. Probably the smarter choice especially since they aren’t going to be competitive for a year or two.
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                                                                                  I like this idea....back just before the expansion draft took place I did a mock draft and only got 11 choices right but it was harder to do than I thought
                                                                                  18 févr. à 12 h 57
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                                                                                  Lets Get Kraken
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                                                                                  Quoting: GymClassHero39
                                                                                  I like this idea....back just before the expansion draft took place I did a mock draft and only got 11 choices right but it was harder to do than I thought


                                                                                  For sure. There were players available that probably should have been taken but there was a significant amount of risk involved in taking them (Tarasenko, van Reimsdyk, Duchene, Johansen) and then there were picks that should have been a no brainer that just weren’t selected (Domi, Kahkonen, Niederreiter, Hamilton). I do think Francis played the draft safe, but probably a bit too safe. Of the risky picks, I do think Francis should have picked Tarasenko and one of the Nashville centers. He made the smart pick from the Blues and the Preds, not knowing how players might turn out, due to either inconsistency or injury, and hindsight is 20/20, but some picks were just weird. Francis certainly values cap space the most, which could explain some of the weird picks like Bayreuther and Twarynski, and the Kraken could play a big role at the deadline.

                                                                                  Francis never wanted to go into win a cup asap mode like Vegas, as the proof is in the pudding. Vegas is now struggling with cap space, more so now with the Eichel addition, and they will have to cut some of their roster into next year. Francis is aiming to build through the draft and through FA, and build the Kraken into a sustainable cup contender, much like how the Penguins were starting from 2007-present. It seems like I am the biggest Francis defender, but I do firmly believe that in the long run, Seattle could end up being more successful than Vegas by starting this approach. Do not get me wrong though, Francis could have made a couple better decisions in the expansion draft though.
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