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Carolina and Montreal Make Up

Créé par: ricochetii
Équipe: 2021-22 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 4 sept. 2021
Publié: 4 sept. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Légende
Gaucher
Équipe initiale
Exempté du ballottage
Droitier
Position
Clause d'échange
Max. Bonis de perf.
Statut à l’échéance du contrat
Terme restant
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Exempté du ballottageMcDavid, Connor
12 500 000 $ (Bonis de performance250 000 $)
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Description
Just a random musing.
Would be interesting if MB swallowed his pride and something like this happened, but it's incredibly unlikely for a number of reasons. :p
Transactions
MTL
  1. Trocheck, Vincent
Détails additionnels:
Extension: 5 years @ $6M
CAR
    Montreal doesn't match offer sheet for Kotkaniemi.
    Carolina's 1st and 3rd picks are returned to Carolina for Trochek.
    Rachats de contrats
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    2022
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    2023
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    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2381 500 000 $68 937 977 $597 561 $1 475 000 $12 562 023 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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    5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
    AG, AD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
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    863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance537 500 $$538K)
    C
    UFA - 1
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    880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance300 000 $$300K)
    AG, AD
    UFA - 2
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    4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
    AG
    UFA - 3
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    4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 1
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    5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
    AD, AG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 6
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    2 125 000 $2 125 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 3
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    750 000 $750 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 2
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    1 150 000 $1 150 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
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    6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
    AD, AG
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 6
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    750 000 $750 000 $
    C
    UFA - 1
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    3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 4
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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    875 000 $875 000 $
    DG/DD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
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    2 343 750 $2 343 750 $
    DD
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 4
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    10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
    G
    NMC
    UFA - 5
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    894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance637 500 $$638K)
    DG
    RFA - 1
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    3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 4
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    2 875 000 $2 875 000 $
    G
    UFA - 2
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    1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
    DG/DD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
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    750 000 $750 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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    925 000 $925 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 1
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    3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 2
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    7 857 143 $7 857 143 $
    DD
    UFA - 5
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    950 000 $950 000 $
    C, AG, AD
    UFA - 1
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    950 000 $950 000 $
    AG, AD, C
    UFA - 1

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    4 sept. 2021 à 14 h 14
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    And that's a no. For a PPG C, the ask would be the earlier of the two picks, so likely Montreal's, the 3rd is fine, but you're still light. With an extension too, you might be asked for both 1sts... this is an easy pass from Carolina.
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    4 sept. 2021 à 14 h 23
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    And that's a no. For a PPG C, the ask would be the earlier of the two picks, so likely Montreal's, the 3rd is fine, but you're still light. With an extension too, you might be asked for both 1sts... this is an easy pass from Carolina.


    Don't take this too seriously as it's never going to happen, just a "what if" they decided to bury the hatchet.
    Gentleman's agreement to stop messing with each other.

    I would suggest something around Staal instead, but he's the captain and has a NMC. Trocheck is a pending UFA with no such protection.
    4 sept. 2021 à 14 h 26
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    Quoting: ricochetii
    Don't take this too seriously as it's never going to happen, just a "what if" they decided to bury the hatchet.
    Gentleman's agreement to stop messing with each other.

    I would suggest something around Staal instead, but he's the captain and has a NMC. Trocheck is a pending UFA with no such protection.


    Trocheck is also a PPG C. If Montreal want to bury the hatchet, they're going to have to pay full price and stop acting like the Canes are a minor piece of the league. That's all! Dundon did this because Bergevin was so outspoken with Aho wanting to go to Montreal, and he's going to get himself a 21-year-old C with top 6 upside for it. Hell, I don't even thinks this happens if Montreal don't frontload the Aho deal. If they pay 10 mil and do it in 10 mil signing bonus every year, Dundon probably isn't as angry. It's just because the habs thought they could poach the best player on either team away.
    4 sept. 2021 à 14 h 59
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    Trocheck is also a PPG C. If Montreal want to bury the hatchet, they're going to have to pay full price and stop acting like the Canes are a minor piece of the league. That's all! Dundon did this because Bergevin was so outspoken with Aho wanting to go to Montreal, and he's going to get himself a 21-year-old C with top 6 upside for it. Hell, I don't even thinks this happens if Montreal don't frontload the Aho deal. If they pay 10 mil and do it in 10 mil signing bonus every year, Dundon probably isn't as angry. It's just because the habs thought they could poach the best player on either team away.


    I agree it was a mistake to start it. Disagree about Dundon, this was about ego for him, nothing more. MB prodded him by insinuating Dundon wasn't able or willing to pay.

    Trocheck is not however, a p/g player. He's come close twice, but he's under .7 in his career. Even if you ignore his first 2 seasons, he's only .74.
    I'm not taking away from him, but that's an oversell.
    This is probably closer to the rental price, yes, but the motivation is to cease hostilities. The idea is for everyone to walk away happy.
    MB is also giving up KK here, who he would not otherwise trade for a 1st and a 3rd, so there's lost value on both sides.

    Anyway, we have looked at every angle except for the two teams making amends, which is more of where I was hoping the discussion to go.
    4 sept. 2021 à 15 h 2
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    Quoting: ricochetii
    I agree it was a mistake to start it. Disagree about Dundon, this was about ego for him, nothing more. MB prodded him by insinuating Dundon wasn't able or willing to pay.

    Trocheck is not however, a p/g player. He's come close twice, but he's under .7 in his career. Even if you ignore his first 2 seasons, he's only .74.
    I'm not taking away from him, but that's an oversell.
    This is probably closer to the rental price, yes, but the motivation is to cease hostilities. The idea is for everyone to walk away happy.
    MB is also giving up KK here, who he would not otherwise trade for a 1st and a 3rd, so there's lost value on both sides.

    Anyway, we have looked at every angle except for the two teams making amends, which is more of where I was hoping the discussion to go.


    If this is what Montreal will pay, they'll be rebutted. Trocheck is worth more than that, he was a PPG player last year, or close enough to it to call him a PPG player. Carolina have no need to move him and will not move him without their price being met.

    This was not about ego. Bergevin started this with the Aho offer sheet. Dundon splashes money around for fun, and Bergevin was reckless. He acted on the notion Dundon was Karmanos, and it's blwon up iun his face, costing him one of the players on his roster with the biggest upside for a late 1st and a 3rd. This is a mistake Bergevin made.
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