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Is not Pietro crippling cap-wise like signing a star center after

Créé par: Britishbulldog
Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 20 sept. 2020
Publié: 20 sept. 2020
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These scenarios to get Pietrangelo seems to absolutely destroy Toronto's cap for the next 7 years. The last two or three of which he would be on a serious decline skill wise.

Listening to Kypreos podcast with MacLean it really was a key point with them saying that signing Tavares, even as a star center, hurt the Leaf's cap-wise because they had just drafted a franchise center in Matthews making Tavares unnecessary. Matthews would be home grown, Kadri was homegrown and had been scoring 30 goal seasons and then had a down year here last year but was back on pace today for another 30 goal season if you pro rate his goals against the 51 games.

Now fans are willing to look past $2.5 million to $5.5 million defencemen available and want to sign one guy reportedly wanting up to $9 million plus to a contract way past his prime??

How much will homegrown Rielly want on his next contract if the Leafs are willing to give a 30 year old defenceman such huge money?

I had been hearing that Matthews was going to be looking for "Eichel-esque" money which I thought it was a ludicrous amount. I thought NO player would be signed to 8 digit contracts as that team would be hamstrung cap-wise. Then Dubas of course signed Tavares for even MORE than Eichel!! If Dubas hadn't signed Tavares I feel that the Leafs would have had some growing pains with the youth but would have signed Matthews for a bit more than Eichel (something like $10,634,000) for 8 years, Marner would have come in a bit less (probably a bit more than Kypreos's $8.5 MIL but not much more) for 8 years, I thought that Nylander would have come in between $6 and $6.5 MIL but Dubas has him close to that and Kadri would have been here for $4.5 MIL still.

If Tavares was never signed I realize that we would see 15 less goals with Kadri as 2nd line center but Rielly would be captain, there would be lots of cap space to trade for or sign anything the Leafs needed and we would be seeing an 8 year window just starting to open.

This year the Leafs would be drafting Schneider @ 15 OA, Sandin and Liljegren would be developing on the Marlies and we would be discussing what RHD UFA the Leafs could sign with the HUGE cap space. [/rant]

Short rant: I am not sure Leafs should sign Pietrangelo with Tavares on the team
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    20 sept. 2020 à 16 h 44
    #1
    Good Opinion Haver
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    Yes, signing Pietrangelo would be stupid for the leafs to do.

    With the cap the way it is, this team with Pietrangelo completely implodes in three-four years when Matthews needs another new deal (and probably raise?) and all your peripheral cost controlled pieces are up. Is that worth it? I think I'd rather have a window longer than three years.

    However, it seems a lot of leafs fans do not think this way.

    The back breaking signing probably wasn't Tavares there. If you were going to get Pietrangelo you probably just don't re-sign Muzzin (gasp!) but it's hard to make that call considering everyone kinda just thought Pietrangelo would stay with the Blues. Not having Tavares now would certainly help but that's looking at things in hindsight (though personally I would not have signed Tavares two years ago)
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    20 sept. 2020 à 16 h 46
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    Nice. Admit what everyone knows: the Tavares deal was dumb and that his contract is something of an albatross, especially for a team like TO. Then, trade him to another team so he can be their albatross. Avs are not going to take on a contract like that when they have Landy and Makar to sign next year and Mac in 3 years. Hard pass from Sakic.
    20 sept. 2020 à 16 h 50
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    Your main issue was that you were listening to kypreos and Maclean
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    20 sept. 2020 à 16 h 54
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    John 3 16
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    Nah you're good, we'd rather have Kadri at close to 1/3 of the caphit.
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    20 sept. 2020 à 16 h 58
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    I think the condition is that IF we get Pietrangelo, eventually, whether its this offseason or next, it means that one of Nylander or Marner gets traded to restore the balance
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