Leafs QO for Mikheyev and Engvall plus Dermotts value

Créé par: Britishbulldog

Équipe: 2019-20 Maple Leafs de Toronto

Date de création initiale: 12 janv. 2020

Publié: 12 janv. 2020

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***Mikheyev and Engvall
I am watching Leaf fans breaking open the bank for these 2 rookie forwards. What I have seen consistently is other teams don't know who the rookies are the 1st season but play them much differently the next season if that player made an impact as a rookie.

Similar to Johnsson signing a QO bridge deal to prove he was for real, both these forwards need to do this as well before they get signed to Johnsson, Kerfoot and Kapanen money.

I would like to see both signed to 1 year deals to something around the QO which is:
- Players who earned less than $660,000 in the previous NHL season must be offered at least 110 percent of last season's salary in a qualifying offer.
- Players who earned up to $1 million must be offered 105 percent.
- Players who earned over $1 million must be offered 100 percent.
(https://www.liveabout.com/nhl-restricted-free-agents-2778980)

Even $1.1 - $1.25 MIL would work to see if they are able to sustain their production and show they aren't flash in the pan.

***Dermott - small LHD that simply isn't bad
I think we have become twisted in our view of Leaf players after the last 4 decades(at least for me) of over hyped prospects, etc.

2 dmen that are RHD... and bigger as well (6'2" TVR and 6'4" Mayfield) had similar offensive numbers as 3rd pair dmen but signed for less that $1 MIL on their 2nd 'prove me' contracts. They followed them with $2.3 MIL x 2 and $1.45 MIL x 5 respectively.

( As you probably all know...TVR has been struggling and even a healthy scratch this year so appears to have been a bit over paid)

I have seen some here give Dermott over $3 MIL and one gave over $4 MIL. Dermott is replaceable and not a core piece.

As a 3rd pair dman I feel he should be given a "Mayfield" style contract or trade him and let Sandin help us forget who Dermott is.

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How nuts am I?

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TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
22	81 500 000 $	81 997 143 $	0 $	70 000 $	-497 143 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Hyman, Zach 2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 2	Matthews, Auston 11 634 000 $11 634 000 $ C UFA - 5	Marner, Mitchell 10 893 000 $10 893 000 $ AD UFA - 6
Johnsson, Andreas 3 400 000 $3 400 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 4	Tavares, John 11 000 000 $11 000 000 $ C, AG NMC UFA - 6	Nylander, William 6 962 366 $6 962 366 $ AD UFA - 5
Engvall, Pierre 925 000 $925 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1	Kerfoot, Alexander 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ AG, C, AD UFA - 4	Kapanen, Kasperi 3 200 000 $3 200 000 $ AD UFA - 3
Moore, Trevor 775 000 $775 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2		Spezza, Jason 700 000 $700 000 $ C, AD NTC UFA - 1
	Gauthier, Frédérik 675 000 $675 000 $ C UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Rielly, Morgan 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ DG UFA - 3	Ceci, Cody 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ DD UFA - 1	Andersen, Frederik 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 2
Muzzin, Jake 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ DG UFA - 1	Barrie, Tyson 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ DD UFA - 1	Hutchinson, Michael 700 000 $700 000 $ G UFA - 1
Dermott, Travis 863 333 $863 333 $ DG/DD UFA - 1	Holl, Justin 675 000 $675 000 $ DD UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Marincin, Martin 700 000 $700 000 $ DG UFA - 1		Horton, Nathan 5 300 000 $5 300 000 $ AD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1
Timashov, Dmytro 694 444 $694 444 $ (70 000 $$70K) AG UFA - 1		Clarkson, David 5 250 000 $5 250 000 $ AD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1
		Mikheyev, Ilya 925 000 $925 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1

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12 janv. 2020 à 11 h 59

leaflet

Rejoint: mai 2017

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That sounds very reasonable. They may try to sign Mikheyev for longer, but you're right to say contract number speculation is inflated on this site.

I remember just a few years ago when Brown and Hyman were due for a contract. It would be funny to dig that up. People making AGMs would get lambasted for not giving Connor Brown at least 5M AAV (who just scored 20 goals at the time). Somehow fans are not reliable for these kinds of projections.

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12 janv. 2020 à 12 h 4

Britishbulldog

C,mon Leafs...Please

Rejoint: juin 2015

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Quoting: leaflet

You get what I am thinking exactly. Brown scored followed the 20 with 14 goals and then only 8 without ever missing a game (meaning it wasn't injuries that limited him).

With a chance to breakout offensively he is on pace for 12-13 goals this year.

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12 janv. 2020 à 12 h 33

AnalyticsGeek

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Quoting: Britishbulldog

Quoting: leaflet

If the Leafs sign Mikheyev for 3 or more years, expect the AAV ago be at least 3 million dollars. I think he’s got even more talent and tools than Johnsson.

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12 janv. 2020 à 12 h 36

Jack_

Kings v5 GM

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Dermott will be a core piece and is very valuable. He hasn't played big minutes yet and he wont put up points so his cap hit wont be very high. Hes got all they tools to be a #3 defenseman but he hasn't got the minutes yet. He will be very good

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12 janv. 2020 à 12 h 42

palhal

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Rejoint: juill. 2015

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Think it rather silly to think Sandin will make the Leafs forgot Dermot (or whoever is the other LHD,) since they both play the same amount of minutes. Dermot played well with rookie last year and now is playing well with Ceci. Don't think Dermot's on ice value can be dismissed. Now the next contract..both sides have to agree if they want to go long or short. Pros and cons for both parties
Mikheyvov has just two year till he's a UFA, so Leafs might want a longer contract for control, but if they want a show me contract....that's OK, just be prepared to pay more if Mikheyvov does show them.

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