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Marner offer sheet thought experiment

Créé par: F50marco
Équipe: 2019-20 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 14 août 2019
Publié: 14 août 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Légende
Gaucher
Équipe initiale
Exempté du ballottage
Droitier
Position
Clause d'échange
Max. Bonis de perf.
Statut à l’échéance du contrat
Terme restant
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Exempté du ballottageMcDavid, Connor
12 500 000 $ (Bonis de performance250 000 $)
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Description
Just a thought experiment. Curious to see how people view this. Of course the point is to make everyone happy based on this framework. Don't get worked up on the value too much, its mainly just taking close comparables values for the sake of simplicity.

So its comes down to:

Petry
Tatar
1st 2020
1st 2021
1st 2022
1st 2023
4th 2020
4th 2020

for

Marner (11.6 x 7 years - Marner gets Matthews money but has to accept a long term contract - I think that is a decent compromise.)
1st 2020 (Petry trade)
1st 2021 (Tatar trade)
Kopacka (Petry trade)
Westerlund (Tatar trade)


So just for simplicity

- Assuming all picks are lottery protected and all teams involved are playoff hopefuls at the very least. Montreal is trending upwards so i think with the addition of Marner and the natural progression of young players, this team should at the very least be a playoff team. EDIT: ****the offer sheet picks are obviously not lottery protected**** the others are however.
- In order to visually equate the values of each side, the two prospects received in the Petry and Tatar trades are enough value to drop the third 1st rounder lost in the OS into a 2nd rounder in terms of value equalization. Once again picks are NOT lottery. So maximum 16th-31st in value here.


<strong>If </strong>that is the case, would everyone be happy in this situation?

Leafs get their four 1sts.
Habs get Marner for "essentially" Petry, Tatar, 1st 2022, *2023 2nd and two 4ths.
Ari/Ana/whomever get a top 4 RHD and top 6 winger for this year and next!


Disclaimer: Don't look at the lineup, don't look at the lines. This is just a thought experiment to see how the Marner offer sheet compensation could be "changed" to be less apparent. That's all. People get too worked up over "four 1st rounders". Just like the leafs can use those four 1st rounders they get from the offer sheet to replenish their team, so could any team who had to pay for Marner. The goal here was translate those four 1sts of compensation into tangible player value as much as possible by replenishing some of the picks lost.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3900 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
711 600 000 $
Offres hostiles
Le salaire annuel moyen (AAV) de l'offre hostile est calculé en divisant la valeur totale du contrat par: 1. La durée totale du contrat, ou 2. Cinq ans
JOUEURAAVCOMPENSATION
Marner, Mitchell16 240 000 $
Choix de 1e ronde en 2020
Choix de 1e ronde en 2021
Choix de 1e ronde en 2022
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Kopacka, Jack
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (ANA)
Détails additionnels:
Doesn't have to be Anaheim I'm just using them for simplicity.
ANA
  1. Petry, Jeff
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (SJS)
2.
MTL
  1. Westerlund, Filip [Liste de réserve]
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (ARI)
Détails additionnels:
Doesn't have to be Arizona, i'm just using them for simplicity.
ARI
  1. Tatar, Tomas
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (ANA)
Rachats de contrats
Enfoui
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2020
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Logo de MTL
Logo de CHI
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de WPG
Logo de MTL
Logo de FLA
Logo de MTL
Logo de CHI
2021
Logo de ARI
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de CHI
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
2022
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $74 918 809 $0 $3 525 000 $6 581 191 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
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3 083 333 $3 083 333 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 150 000 $3 150 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
C
UFA - 2
11 600 000 $11 600 000 $
AD
UFA - 6
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 600 000 $2 600 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 400 000 $2 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
C, AD, AG
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
748 333 $748 333 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
7 857 143 $7 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 7
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
925 000 $925 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance175 000 $$175K)
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
800 000 $800 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1

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14 août 2019 à 16 h 40
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Trading away Petry would worry me simply due to the weakness on RD while Juulsen and Fleury develop. Other than that, you have peaked my interest. Good luck when all the leafs fans comment.
14 août 2019 à 16 h 41
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14 août 2019 à 16 h 45
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Do you think you can get 1sts for those two? As well to do an offersheet you don't get to lottery protect and you can't send other's firsts. You send your own. the only protection you get is I think you get to choose to say no once, ie it is 4 firsts over 5 years.
14 août 2019 à 16 h 49
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Do you think you can get 1sts for those two? As well to do an offersheet you don't get to lottery protect and you can't send other's firsts. You send your own. the only protection you get is I think you get to choose to say no once, ie it is 4 firsts over 5 years.


Tatar worth a 1st + 2nd round pick, Petry worth more than Tatar. So yeah, they worth a 1st lmao
14 août 2019 à 16 h 53
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Do you think you can get 1sts for those two? As well to do an offersheet you don't get to lottery protect and you can't send other's firsts. You send your own. the only protection you get is I think you get to choose to say no once, ie it is 4 firsts over 5 years.


Yeah i understand, the lottery protection was meant for the non MTL picks. I'll specify that in the description now.

As for Petry and Tatar, no reason not to believe the Habs couldn't get that for them.
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