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Sprong for Honka

Créé par: OrangeMallard
Équipe: 2019-20 Ducks d'Anaheim
Date de création initiale: 1 août 2019
Publié: 2 août 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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12 500 000 $ (Bonis de performance250 000 $)
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Description
I saw this trade awhile back, and it's been steadily growing on me. I wanted to reignite the conversation.

Sprong and Honka find themselves in very similar positions. They are both young, talented players who have never really been given a fair shot to show what they're capable of. As it stands, Sprong will not be able to go higher than 4th line RW with the Ducks. And Honka cannot even break into Dallas's top 6 D-men. These teams should trade from a place of strength to shore up their weak spots

With this trade, Sprong can find a place to grow on Dallas's 3rd line behind former teammate, Corey Perry. And Honka could hopefully find a productive home beside Fowler on Anaheim's 2nd pairing

Thoughts? Concerns? Suggestions? Should one side or the other add a pick to balance the trade?
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RFAANSCAP HIT
2950 000 $
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  1. Honka, Julius [Droits de RFA]
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $53 148 758 $0 $2 365 000 $28 351 242 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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820 000 $820 000 $ (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
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RFA - 2
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8 250 000 $8 250 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD
UFA - 1
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2 463 139 $2 463 139 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
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863 333 $863 333 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
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5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
AD, AG
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UFA - 5
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1 498 925 $1 498 925 $
AG
UFA - 2
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1 456 250 $1 456 250 $
AG, C
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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2 600 000 $2 600 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
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1 541 000 $1 541 000 $
AG, C, AD
UFA - 1
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1 133 333 $1 133 333 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
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700 000 $700 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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2 602 778 $2 602 778 $
DG
UFA - 3
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6 400 000 $6 400 000 $
G
UFA - 8
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 7
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2 050 000 $2 050 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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1 125 000 $1 125 000 $ (Bonis de performance1 200 000 $$1M)
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UFA - 1
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745 000 $745 000 $ (Bonis de performance182 500 $$182K)
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RFA - 2
950 000 $950 000 $
DD
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850 000 $850 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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950 000 $950 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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6 875 000 $6 875 000 $
C, AD
NMC
UFA - 3
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850 000 $850 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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3 150 000 $3 150 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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2 août 2019 à 7 h 27
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Not bad but where is Larsson lol (and Guhle no?)
2 août 2019 à 11 h 28
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Quoting: bhavikp27
Not bad but where is Larsson lol (and Guhle no?)


Yeah I could have added them in place of Mahura and Hakanpaa. No argument there

I'm guessing that between the four of them, they'll end up taking turns playing between here and San Diego
2 août 2019 à 11 h 56
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Quoting: OrangeMallard
Yeah I could have added them in place of Mahura and Hakanpaa. No argument there

I'm guessing that between the four of them, they'll end up taking turns playing between here and San Diego


The way I see it Mahura is behind Larsson, Guhle, Del Zotto and maybe even Hakanpaa (we're really have no idea about him). We'll have to get hit with all kinds of injuries or he needs to make a huge jump in his development to hop over all of those guys. A year down in San Diego being their top guy should be good for him.

As for the trade... meh. I'd rather let Guhle and Larsson get a serious look to stick around. Sprong has 20-goal potential and makes nothing. I'd rather stick with him. I'm really not sure where all the interest in Honka is coming from. Considering his age and contract, if he were any good Dallas would just hold onto him. The fact they want to move him is a big red flag for me.
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2 août 2019 à 17 h 56
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Quoting: TheJoeMan
The way I see it Mahura is behind Larsson, Guhle, Del Zotto and maybe even Hakanpaa (we're really have no idea about him). We'll have to get hit with all kinds of injuries or he needs to make a huge jump in his development to hop over all of those guys. A year down in San Diego being their top guy should be good for him.

As for the trade... meh. I'd rather let Guhle and Larsson get a serious look to stick around. Sprong has 20-goal potential and makes nothing. I'd rather stick with him. I'm really not sure where all the interest in Honka is coming from. Considering his age and contract, if he were any good Dallas would just hold onto him. The fact they want to move him is a big red flag for me.

Honka does not impact Guhle or Mahura becuase Honka plays the right side. Mahura probably doesn't have a shot at the NHL this year, so I think it also fine in that regard as well.

The interest I have in Honka for the Ducks is that
1) he plays the right as previously mentioned, that will fill the hole there and I would rather a young player than someone like MDZ or Holzer there.
2) Dallas in my eyes kind of sucks at not only identifying and picking top talent with their first round picks, they also suck at developing the players they do take with those picks. I believe Honka falls into both those categories, he probably shouldn't have gone 14th OA, but at the same time the Stars are kind of brutalizing his development path by not playing him at all and playing with people who do not complement his style.
3) The Ducks, as most people know by now are extremely strong on the player development side of the organization, we could take on Honka for almost nothing as reclamation project from a team who very clearly wants him out (based on their free agent signings) and develop him back to at least some of what he was touted as that made him appealing enogh for the stars to take 14th OA.

While I do believe Sprong can bring a good goal scoring element to the team in the coming seasons, his hockey sense is unfortunately very subpar and hockey sense is something that you can't really teach (case study: Nick Ritchie). With Sprong being a healthy scratch multiple times at the end of the season I would much rather trade him for a new asset. On top of it all, Sprong may actually be more valuable than Honka (considering Sprong is on a team friendly deal and Honka is unsigned) which could allow the Ducks to pry more than just Honka away from the Stars. Possibly Honka + 3rd for Sprong + 5th? Line mate wise, I do believe Fowler would be the correct partner for Honka. This may just be me reminiscing about the Fowler/Despres pair that I love so much, but i think this has those elements and could help to produce more offense from both players.
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5 août 2019 à 12 h 49
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Honka does not impact Guhle or Mahura becuase Honka plays the right side. Mahura probably doesn't have a shot at the NHL this year, so I think it also fine in that regard as well.

The interest I have in Honka for the Ducks is that
1) he plays the right as previously mentioned, that will fill the hole there and I would rather a young player than someone like MDZ or Holzer there.
2) Dallas in my eyes kind of sucks at not only identifying and picking top talent with their first round picks, they also suck at developing the players they do take with those picks. I believe Honka falls into both those categories, he probably shouldn't have gone 14th OA, but at the same time the Stars are kind of brutalizing his development path by not playing him at all and playing with people who do not complement his style.
3) The Ducks, as most people know by now are extremely strong on the player development side of the organization, we could take on Honka for almost nothing as reclamation project from a team who very clearly wants him out (based on their free agent signings) and develop him back to at least some of what he was touted as that made him appealing enogh for the stars to take 14th OA.

While I do believe Sprong can bring a good goal scoring element to the team in the coming seasons, his hockey sense is unfortunately very subpar and hockey sense is something that you can't really teach (case study: Nick Ritchie). With Sprong being a healthy scratch multiple times at the end of the season I would much rather trade him for a new asset. On top of it all, Sprong may actually be more valuable than Honka (considering Sprong is on a team friendly deal and Honka is unsigned) which could allow the Ducks to pry more than just Honka away from the Stars. Possibly Honka + 3rd for Sprong + 5th? Line mate wise, I do believe Fowler would be the correct partner for Honka. This may just be me reminiscing about the Fowler/Despres pair that I love so much, but i think this has those elements and could help to produce more offense from both players.


No, Honka would impact Guhle and Mahura on the depth chart. It doesn't matter that he plays the right side, better d-men are better d-men and the handedness of a player doesn't solely impact where he is on the depth chart. By that rationale that means Holzer is higher on the depth chart than one or Larsson, Guhle and Del Zotto and that's just crazy. I mean if we acquired Honka for like a pick or a disposable prospect like Sherwood, whatever. But like you said, Sprong has value (not to mention we gave up a quality, young RHD to get him in the first place) so I'd rather not give up on him yet.

I'm content with where we're at right now. Yeah, we'll have a guy playing on his opposite side but so what? I don't think it's worth diluting the group as a whole simply so all three pairs can pass and receive the puck on their forehand.
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