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Would you do this EDM fans

Créé par: F50marco
Équipe: 2019-20 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 15 juill. 2019
Publié: 15 juill. 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Exempté du ballottageMcDavid, Connor
12 500 000 $ (Bonis de performance250 000 $)
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NMC
UFA - 5
Description
Essentially EDM buy out Alzner for a much cheaper cost than they would Lucic and only lose Puljujarvi and a higher spot in the 1st round but not a top 10 pick and if it is a top 10 pick, they only swap 2nds instead. That really isn't so bad. Lucic rides the pine for a couple years before ultimately being bought out before the expansion. Who knows, maybe he can find his mojo again playing for Julien.

EDM:
-They get cap space by buying out Alzner instead of Lucic AND don't have to worry about Lucic in the expansion draft.
-They get a project in McCarron to replace Puljujarvi who isn't resigning and no one is paying a premium for anyway.
-They do not lose a 1st rounder outright and potentially only swap a 2nd rounders at best. Actually best case scenario is EDM finishes only a spot worse in the standings than Montreal.

MTL:
-Take on more cap (which they have plenty of anyway and are not using so its wasted) and then buyout Lucic before the expansion draft.
-Get a prospect they can maybe develop in Puljujarvi alongside Kotkaniemi.
-They upgrade their 1st rounder at best or their 2nd rounder at worst. Win/win.


Its either this or you pay Ottawa to take Lucic off your hands and the price is Puljujarvi, Jones and a 1st rounder 2020 that's not protected. They send you a cheap 3rd or 4th liner at best or a no name prospect in return.
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21 000 000 $
Transactions
MTL
  1. Lucic, Milan
  2. Puljujärvi, Jesse [Droits de RFA]
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (EDM)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (EDM)
Détails additionnels:
**Conditions:
1st round pick is top 10 protected.
2nd round picks are only swapped if 1st round pick is top 10.
EDM
  1. Alzner, Karl
  2. McCarron, Michael [Droits de RFA]
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (MTL)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (MTL)
Détails additionnels:
**Conditions:
1st round pick is only swapped if it is higher than EDM and EDM's not top 10.
2nd round picks are only swapped if EDM 1st rounder is top 10.
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2021
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2022
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $73 380 476 $0 $3 350 000 $8 119 524 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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4 800 000 $4 800 000 $
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UFA - 2
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3 083 333 $3 083 333 $
C
UFA - 2
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3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
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3 150 000 $3 150 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
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2 600 000 $2 600 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
C
UFA - 2
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AD
UFA
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2 400 000 $2 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C, AG
UFA - 2
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
C, AD, AG
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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748 333 $748 333 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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7 857 143 $7 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 7
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
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NMC
UFA - 7
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925 000 $925 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
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UFA - 1
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1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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800 000 $800 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 4
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
C
UFA - 1

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15 juill. 2019 à 15 h 39
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MK458
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If it had been done earlier like July 1st, I'd do it. But because all the free agents are now gone the extra cap space does us no good this season because we can no longer try to sign a winger like ferland or dzingle. And because we can't sign a decent winger the pick swap is riskier
15 juill. 2019 à 15 h 41
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It's interesting and well thought out, I'll give you that. But from Edmonton's POV, what do they need the cap space for? Who are they going to sign right now for <$5M that is worth giving up JP + a mid 1st for?
15 juill. 2019 à 15 h 45
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If it had been done earlier like July 1st, I'd do it. But because all the free agents are now gone the extra cap space does us no good this season because we can no longer try to sign a winger like ferland or dzingle. And because we can't sign a decent winger the pick swap is riskier


Fair enough. That pretty much answers my question regardless. How could we adjust this trade for it to still happen right now, in your mind? Assuming EDM still really wanted to sign Brassard and Boyle or Gardiner for example?
15 juill. 2019 à 15 h 50
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It's interesting and well thought out, I'll give you that. But from Edmonton's POV, what do they need the cap space for? Who are they going to sign right now for <$5M that is worth giving up JP + a mid 1st for?


Well you have to think of it more from the flipside. What are teams even willing to give EDM to get Puljujarvi? Plus the 1st rounder may not even be a 1st rounder at the end of the day. If Edm stinks this year again, they get a worse 2nd rounder. That's it. If they do better but not better than MTL, how much better could that pick really be? MTL is no way finishing top 5-10 in the league this year so chances are this pick is only a few spots better at best.

I don't understand why people obsess about UFA's. That isn't the only way to get players. Getting the cap space means EDM can work deals for better players like Pacioretty in Vegas, which they would not be able to do otherwise with their current cap space. Doesn't have to be Patches, just saying now they are free to acquire a player with a higher cap hit if they want to also.
15 juill. 2019 à 15 h 50
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Lucic just might waive for his NMC for Montreal. But you can forget the swaps of picks. Can't see the Oilers finishing in the top 21. Think long term the 6m in cap space for two years longer than Alzner contract is more important to Montreal than the chance of upgrade int the picks from lets say 20 to 14. But an original thought on the trade.
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